Vanah updates GAZE command
Posted11 September 2016
Last Updated On20 September 2018
ByNewsby
GM Vanah takes on GAZE and wrastles it to the mat for the win! You no longer have to live in fear of GAZING FONDLY. GAZE SET NORMAL. Fond gazing now takes extra work, like it should! Also Sorcerers get GAZING options, see the Officials:
http://bit.ly/2ciEa7g
Category: General Roleplaying
Topic: Verbs
Date: 09/09/2016 12:40 PM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: GAZE default
GAZE with no argument defaults to the ‘gaze fondly’ messaging. Would it be possible to change that to default to the ‘gaze normal’ messaging to be a little less jarring when flubbed? 😀
—
Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 110 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “Do I detect… sarcasm? Surely not.”
Date: 09/09/2016 03:25 PM CDT
From: PBARBER2
Subj: Re: GAZE default
I second that notion and no, I did not mean to “gaze fondly” at Chaston!
Date: 09/09/2016 03:41 PM CDT
From: JADZIABLUE
Subj: Re: GAZE default
>I second that notion and no, I did not mean to “gaze fondly” at Chaston!
But he’s SO dreamy!
(I third this notion.)
Signed,
Raelee and her Strings
>Speaking to Zyllah, Alyias says, “See? Raelee knows all.”
Date: 09/09/2016 11:06 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: GAZE default
Third on GAZE!
The first thing I had to do moving from DragonRealms here was swear to never use GAZE again. A nice plain alternative would be nice, too.
—
Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)
Date: 09/10/2016 05:36 AM CDT
From: GS4-VANAH
Subj: Re: GAZE default
One of the tricky things about editing existing verbs is that you can add, but you can’t take away. Somewhere, this is someone’s favorite feature and that person would be negatively affected by changing the default. GAZE NORMAL is a style option that will allow you to bypass the gendered default messaging.
~Vanah
Date: 09/10/2016 07:00 AM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: GAZE default
workaround for Lich users would be alias set global gaze=gaze normal
Date: 09/10/2016 11:56 AM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: GAZE default
But a way to make a different default could happen, or even a way to set it?
—
Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)
Date: 09/10/2016 12:49 PM CDT
From: PFLATS
Subj: Re: GAZE default
The default of verbs has changed many times over the course of the game, and one more would not cause a catastrophe.
The fact that “NORMAL” is an optional modifier, and that the default is something that’s not “NORMAL”, is a sign that something is clearly wrong with GAZE.
Date: 09/10/2016 12:55 PM CDT
From: HATESHI
Subj: Re: GAZE default
The “default” gaze messaging (fondly at a character of the opposite sex/in awe at a character of the same sex) existed on its own for many years before the modifiers were put in game. “NORMAL” doesn’t actually mean “default” and is a bit confusing due to the term. It was added in several years back to help everyone use a modified gaze to bypass the default.
– Overlord EK
>You now regard Eorgina with a warm demeanor.
Date: 09/10/2016 08:42 PM CDT
From: PFLATS
Subj: Re: GAZE default
Yes, I too have played this game for more than a few years.
Gazing “normally” should be the default. That’s why it’s called normal. When a player types in “GAZE PERSON”, their character should gaze at that person. Not check them out just because they’re the opposite sex, not become awestruck, they should just gaze.
That fact that “normal” it is not the default is only for historical reasons, not because it’s good verb design.
Date: 09/10/2016 10:47 PM CDT
From: SNOWBEAM
Subj: Re: GAZE default
<<That fact that “normal” it is not the default is only for historical reasons, not because it’s good verb design.>>
Gaze normal is a much newer iteration of this verb, one added for the RP convenience of the players.
The fact that it defaults to fondly is because when the verb was invented, that was the only option.
It’s slightly inconvenient for us to type ‘normal’ at the end of our gaze verb for RP reasons, but as Vanah explained, it’s incredibly far more inconvenience to revamp the verb.
I think in this case we resign ourselves to aliases or six extra keystrokes and thank our lucky stars we have GMs like Vanah constantly enhancing our verby experience.
-The mind behind Rowmi’s eyes.
Date: 09/11/2016 10:09 AM CDT
From: PFLATS
Subj: Re: GAZE default
>It’s slightly inconvenient for us to type ‘normal’ at the end of our gaze verb for RP reasons, but as Vanah explained, it’s incredibly far more inconvenience to revamp the verb.
The game has changed by leaps and bounds since GAZE was written. Two new classes were released. Four new races were released. Bards got spells. Empaths got a new spell circle! GS3 changed to GS4 and the entire skill system, leveling system, and mana system changed. Languages changed. Combat maneuvers and stamina were created.
And yet we can’t change an RP verb to make it better because a few people might be inconvenienced? That’s ridiculous.
Date: 09/11/2016 10:14 AM CDT
From: PFLATS
Subj: Re: GAZE default
edit:
And again, as posters up-thread have pointed out, it’s far worse RP-wise to gaze fondly or gaze in awe at someone by mistake when you meant to just gaze at them than it is to just gaze at them when you meant to do it fondly or in awe.
If a new player saw someone gaze at an NPC of the opposite sex, and then tries to gaze at it themselves, they’ll gaze fondly at it. There’s no reason and almost no precedent in GS verb design to expect that. It’s terrible design being imposed on new players to make old players’ lives mildly easier.
Date: 09/11/2016 11:59 AM CDT
From: KHARIZ555
Subj: Re: GAZE default
all we need is the ability to gaze SET normal so that it stays that way
Date: 09/11/2016 03:36 PM CDT
From: GS4-VANAH
Subj: Re: GAZE default
>all we need is the ability to gaze SET normal so that it stays that way
…all you need is for someone to completely recode the verb? Oh sure, why not!
GAZE now has a GAZE SET NORMAL option that will allow you to simply gaze. Also, GAZE SET PROFESSION as a sorcerer will let you shift your eyes to not just people, because I always wanted to do that. And if you are a sorcerer who hates shifting eyes, enjoy GAZE SET NORMAL!
If you don’t opt out, the verb will continue to work as it has historically, with the profession and gender-based language.
~Vanah
Date: 09/11/2016 04:08 PM CDT
From: SPOOKALAH
Subj: Re: GAZE default
Three cheers for Vanah! Awesome, and much needed, change. Thank you!
Leaves on the Wind – http://lassaran.tumblr.com [Updated 8/28/14]
Date: 09/11/2016 04:30 PM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: GAZE default
>…all you need is for someone to completely recode the verb? Oh sure, why not! -Vanah
Badass. Thank you for this. <3
—
Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 110 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “Do I detect… sarcasm? Surely not.”
Date: 09/11/2016 05:01 PM CDT
From: HATESHI
Subj: Re: GAZE default
Vanah, you’re the best.
– Overlord EK
>You now regard Eorgina with a warm demeanor.
Date: 09/11/2016 05:02 PM CDT
From: SNOWBEAM
Subj: Re: GAZE default
You’re amazing, Vanah.
Thank you!
-The mind behind Rowmi’s eyes.
Date: 09/11/2016 05:06 PM CDT
From: UBERWENCH
Subj: Re: GAZE default
You ARE amazing! Time to GAZE shifty-eyed at all the things and people! <3
Date: 09/11/2016 05:50 PM CDT
From: KHARIZ555
Subj: Re: GAZE default
wow, gotta say I wasn’t expecting that! Thanks!
Date: 09/11/2016 06:17 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: GAZE default
Wow Vanah, that just SO AWESOME!
I’m voting for this in the Best Improvements Of The Year Election…
Gaze Set Normal FTW!
—
Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)
Date: 09/11/2016 09:34 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: GAZE default
>I’m voting for this in the Best Improvements Of The Year Election…
LOL everyone working on Wizard spells are going to drop them and switch to verbs
Date: 09/12/2016 04:18 PM CDT
From: GS4-VANAH
Subj: Re: GAZE default
