Lightening and Deepening Notes Denials and Exclusions
Posted29 October 2017
Last Updated On20 September 2018
ByNewsby
GM Haliste reminds us of the current items that will not work with a lightening or deepening note, and clarifies about those things that only hold 1 item, or are tiny:
Weight Reducing Containers Morphing Containers Dwarffest shield SimpleBooks Smuggling Sacks Disarming Kits Feature concealers (this is mostly for a specific version of a feature concealer that is pinworn) WoundedWear Eisenrucks
I also want to clarify something about the deepening note’s functionality. If your item currently holds one item for a max of one pound (or ten pounds or fifteen pounds), then using a deepening note is only going to increase the poundage — not the max items. In addition, things with tiny or very small capacity are ineligible, regardless of the script approval.
If a script has been denied to be used with a deepen note, it is also denied for use with lighten.
~ Haliste ~ The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor SGM, Events
Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.
Date: 10/28/2017 09:29 AM CDT
From: LORDEVARIN
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
Helpful information. Thanks for sharing.
!>tell child to be quiet The child cries, “I don’t wanna!”
Date: 10/28/2017 09:44 AM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
what is a Disarming Kit? Is that different from a standard locksmith’s toolkit?
Date: 10/28/2017 10:57 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
It’s the same.
~ Haliste ~ The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor SGM, Events
Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.
Date: 10/28/2017 01:30 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
>It’s the same.
Thanks, list on wiki is updated.
Do you ever approve anything for just lightening or just deepening? I submitted a pair of scripted boots this morning/last night(?) that I really only want lightened.
Date: 10/28/2017 04:49 PM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
>Do you ever approve anything for just lightening or just deepening?
No – it’s all or nothing.
~ Haliste ~ The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor SGM, Events
Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.
Date: 10/28/2017 08:04 PM CDT
From: KARDIOS
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
How do we use the notes? It says to Redeem it. Do I need to be holding the item to which it is to be applied when I type Redeem? Does it automatically affect the item, or is it like a Sadie alteration scroll (meaning my item will disappear for a few days)? Can it be used on items that Analyze as being unable to be lightened or deepened?
I have boots that are very small amount for a few items. It can be lightened and deepened by a merchant.
If I do so (live, not notes), does it increase the size of the few items or increase the number of items? In other words, do only “any number” increase the amount in a relevant way?
Date: 10/30/2017 09:42 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
If a container is set to only hold 1 item or 2 items (for instance, a hat – or a pair of gloves – or any number of other things) then it’s only ever going to hold what it was originally built as. The pound-limit will increase on deepens, but typically not the number of items. This is generally intended, since a hat is not meant to be storage in the same manner that a backpack is.
In addition, there are some items that also limit the max weight of items being placed inside a container. Light/deep notes do not affect that value, either – same with live merchants.
~ Haliste ~ The Forest Gnome of Silverwood Manor SGM, Events
Omrii: Okay, thanks Haliste. You’re way better than Wyrom.
Date: 04/30/2018 05:18 PM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
Since the last update was 6 months ago, are there any further additions to the list?
Thank you
Date: 05/02/2018 05:51 AM CDT
From: GS4-HALISTE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
There has been lots of updates for approved scripts. Denied scripts are SwordBelt (dual-scabbard two weapon sword belt) and BodiceBlade (conceals a dagger in a bodice or shirt). Those are my names — I’m not sure of the names on the wiki for those scripts.
~ Haliste ~ SGM, Events Auntie H, Forever
Date: 05/02/2018 11:57 AM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
… is that a Vanishing Point gown?
— ;tune towncrier Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)” Xanith: “It’s flat out amazing” Doug: “100.times ^”
I don’t know, but if a Vanishing Point gown takes daggers and hides them inside, that will be denied as well!
~ Haliste ~ SGM, Events Auntie H, Forever
Date: 05/02/2018 01:28 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
They do! 🙂
I am going to buy a box of labels for you to label all your scripts m’Lady Haliste!
write This is called HideyCorset, but the players call it VanishingPoint
— ;tune towncrier Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)” Xanith: “It’s flat out amazing” Doug: “100.times ^”
Well, bear in mind that there are typically multiple scripts that may do similar things, but are truly separate scripts. This one specifically notes that it’s bodice and shirt — it does not mention gowns in the description. I did not open up the script and investigate, but… just mentioning that for your information.
~ Haliste ~ SGM, Events Auntie H, Forever
Date: 05/02/2018 03:42 PM CDT
From: LUXELLE
Subj: Re: Lightening notes/Deepening notes
I understand. And we might as well put Vanishing Point gowns on the list, right? Because … hidden daggers.
🙂
— ;tune towncrier Rohese: “… the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)” Xanith: “It’s flat out amazing” Doug: “100.times ^”