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Messy Alchemist Features Unlocking Certs and Raffles on Saturday

GM Kaikala is going to take advantage of the extra Duskruin Days by putting out 2 Tier 2 unlockings (with unlimited charges) for scrip and 2 for raffle at the Messy Alchemist on Saturday. What are you going to do?

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Category: Paid Events: Adventures, Quests, and SimuCoins
Topic: Duskruin Arena

Date: 08/21/2017 02:40 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
As if you need more shopping…

This shop is now open along Gloam Pike — a slipshod building. Hard to miss given its garish paint job.

There are some signs in the shop, but to alleviate confusion prior to buying: each of the items has 10 charges. At this tier, these are purely cosmetic in nature and should be considered illusory.

Very likely (but not guaranteed) I’ll do a few second tiers during the week: those just allow a lot more customization in terms of displaying your features to better match up to the racial/culture/gender disguise you might be going for… i.e. Elanthian spy games.

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/21/2017 03:03 AM CDT
From: WARLORD1871
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Interesting stuff, any idea how often there would be chances to refill/recharge them?

Fyrentennimar

Quote: “Jaynah says, “This is more fun than rolton tipping and blood eagle ridin combined.””


Date: 08/21/2017 03:05 AM CDT
From: BRANDTJRT
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
That looks really neat in an unexpected way.

_ _ _
Wyrom gestures at you, causing you to explode.


Date: 08/21/2017 03:13 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>Interesting stuff, any idea how often there would be chances to refill/recharge them?

Not positive yet, given how new they are… I suspect part of it will depend on demand. They’re open for any merchant to do the recharge, though.

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/21/2017 03:25 AM CDT
From: COSTELLOK
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Can I use these to sneak my way into Vaalorian citizenship? I’m sure if I have the right papers the guards will be so busy looking at them that they won’t know a thing’s amiss once the effect wears off, right?


Fyonn’s player


Date: 08/21/2017 04:14 AM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
O_O

This may well be character defining for one of my alts. I love you. <3


Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 30 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “This deal is getting worse all the time.”


Date: 08/21/2017 05:08 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>Can I use these to sneak my way into Vaalorian citizenship? I’m sure if I have the right papers the guards will be so busy looking at them that they won’t know a thing’s amiss once the effect wears off, right?

Nawp — just cosmetic 😉 I don’t want to promise anything and not be able to deliver — but perhaps in the future as an expanded tier or somesuch will allow for that; that was one of the original intents of this project (going into areas that are race-restricted), but it ends up that there is a huge number (understatement) of things that need updating in order for that to be a reality. Cosmetic seemed a good compromise.

>>It didn’t mesh well with my forehead gem or hairsticks at first but when I took them off and put them back on they were fine. However my old tattoo and additional feature line still displays as “her”.

Aware of this! It may take me a bit to find a workaround to the his/her discrepancy in custom wording, but definitely want to try and get it as fixed as possible.

>>The talisman doesn’t show up in my inventory either. Not sure if that’s intentional.. would be awesome if it is!

It was intentional, yes. I’ll take a look at whether a toggle is a possibility… but probably when I’m more awake.

>>Any chance you can put a mirror in the shop?

Will do at some point on Monday.

Also, a few people have already asked me about what Tier 2 is… once I’ve got the above kinks worked out, I’ll post an analyze of Tier 2 so that you guys know what it is.

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/21/2017 05:17 AM CDT
From: MILO6
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>It was intentional, yes. I’ll take a look at whether a toggle is a possibility… but probably when I’m more awake.

I don’t mind that it’s not showing, I wish my other hidden items had the same effect instead of the “tucked away in your clothing” line.

Sleep time.

After one more arena run.. or two..


Date: 08/21/2017 08:00 AM CDT
From: SVEN2010
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]

How long do the illusions last? 8 hours of real time, or in-game time?


Date: 08/21/2017 08:20 AM CDT
From: KITHUS
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Ate tier 2 unlimited use?!

Keith/Brinret/Eronderl

Keith is correct
-Wyrom, APM

Keith is correct.
-GameMaster Estild

Date: 08/21/2017 11:38 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>How long do the illusions last? 8 hours of real time, or in-game time?

Real time on these, for whatever timing the items are set for (these ones just happen to be 8 hours).

>>Ate tier 2 unlimited use?!

Not necessarily. You can have a Tier 2 without it being unlimited, and you can have an unlimited Tier 1; unlimited use is independent of tier on these. Also, they are not for eating 😉

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/21/2017 11:45 AM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>Ate tier 2 unlimited use?!

>Not necessarily. You can have a Tier 2 without it being unlimited, and you can have an unlimited Tier 1; unlimited use is independent of tier on these. Also, they are not for eating 😉 -K

That sounds like potential for the EG permifier. >_>


Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 30 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “This deal is getting worse all the time.”


Date: 08/21/2017 12:25 PM CDT
From: SVEN2010
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Is there a way to get an unlimited use one? Will that be part of the services you are offering?


Date: 08/22/2017 08:44 AM CDT
From: CHIVERST
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Love, love, LOVE these items.

Given the nature of how they work, is there any possibility that they might be refillable in the future with alchemy-made elixirs? Pretty please!


>>You slay me woman! ~ Wyrom

https://gswiki.play.net/Rohese_Bayvel-Timsh'l


Date: 08/23/2017 06:30 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Fixes/notes and answers to some questions (some of these are emailed questions, but answering here for everyone’s benefit):


Couple of things now in place now:
*Double features – should not be a problem now. If it is, absolutely bug it. SUPER THANK YOU to the people who did bug/report this — it wasn’t occurring in Dev, so definitely wouldn’t have realized this was happening quite so soon without you.

*Aelotoi who had wings showing up while other races — your wings will not show up in LOOK anymore, wooohoo! However, you will still have your wing verbs… for now

*Gender items – gender pronouns within specific custom features not converting properly. LOOKing at a character should display properly now — however, this is for LOOK only. Some feature items get set up based on the gender you are when you initially wear them — the system should still display LOOK <character> properly, but if there’s a mismatch, just remove said item and then put it back on. (Same goes for if there’s a mismatch with verbs that the item does — if it’s a gender-based item, just remove/put back on). If it’s still showing a mismatch in LOOK <character>, submit a bug report for me. Just bear in mind that there’s only so much ‘smarts’ that I can build into the system for LOOK ‘knowing’ which words to switch out for the gender items — if what you bug something beyond the capabilities of the elixir item, I’ll let you know.

*Gender items – “general” spot tattoos that have ‘his’ or ‘her’ manually tacked on to the description. This should also now show up properly via the LOOK <character> display. Your underlying tattoo build will NOT change (nor will any show descriptions), though, so bear that in mind if you are using certain verbs on it. If you end up with a tatt that is still showing the wrong gender when someone LOOKs at you, submit a bug report.

*Item visibility – the elixir item will always be set to invisible when it is initially activated. You can now RUB while the item is active to toggle that on and off.

General note about bugging these. The majority of any outlier bugs at this point where the LOOK is concerned will be because of specific item/script conflicts. If you have a conflict where things aren’t showing properly, definitely bug BOTH the elixir item AND the other LOOK-related item, and note in both that there’s an issue with the disguise showing up properly — that should help funnel things to me.


>>Given the nature of how they work, is there any possibility that they might be refillable in the future with alchemy-made elixirs? Pretty please!
I’m not sure on this. I have some other things I’d like to do with them first that will take priority before this can even be a consideration (and read: the other things I want to do are by no means small projects, so it may be a long while before I can say yes or no to this particular request).

>>How long does each use last for?
This is per item. The ones sold in the shop at Duskruin: each charge lasts for 8 in-game hours. You cannot toggle it on and off once the charge is in effect. There is a very small chance that the disguise will fall off early (to allow for awkward situations. Because there should be some IMO). Dying will absolutely cause the disguise to fall off. ANALYZE for the info on how long each charge lasts for.

>>Once out of charges, can they be recharged?
Yes. Any merchant is allowed to bring the items back up to their standard 10 charges. It’s just a matter of finding one willing to do so. There will be some infrequent merchant opps to offer a higher number of charges. And just to reiterate here — these are NOT CRUMBLY items. ANALYZE has this info.

>>Is there a way to get an unlimited use one? Will that be part of the services you are offering?
There is definitely a way to set them unlimited. It is not tied to their tier. I will look at releasing at least one or two before the festival closes — likely it’ll be tied into the Tier 2 offerings. Regardless of the tier, it will not be cheap. The ones off the shelf are pretty reasonable, I think — but that’s in large part due to their limited charges.

>>Well what about one sneaky step further, and instead of having “[Lord Vader] walks into the room.” with an illusion on, how about it reflects our illusion and allows people to only see the illusion in the room instead of the actual character name.
>>IE: I drink my elixir to change my appears to a lanky half-krolvin. Instead of seeing [Lord Vader] just arrived in the room…And looking at me shows I’m a lanky half-krolvin.
>>What if instead it acts as the following after using the elixir: “a well dressed, lanky half-krolvin arrives in the room.” And then people only see that, both with LOOK and in the room description.

Messaging everyone else sees when you walk into/out of a room showing race/etc. instead of your name — I’m not sure if it’s easily possible or not (and by easily, I mean doable at all by me). I can look at it eventually to find out either which way, but it’s not a priority at the moment.

Messaging from LOOK AT <character name> not showing your name in the output, like some of the moonshard pendants — technically possible. Will have to think on this one; either which way, it will not be available at Tier 1.

Messaging from the general room LOOK showing race/etc. instead of your name — this one I can 99.9% say will not happen; there’s simply way too much room for abuse here. With responsible players, not a problem; with griefers… this could easily become hugely problematic. Though I left .01% of uncertainty because if this ever changes, well… 😉


Hope that helps. I’ll set a date/time for some Tier 2s (along with info on them and pricing) in the next day or two; expect it to be slated for sometime on the weekend.

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/23/2017 11:05 AM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>I’ll set a date/time for some Tier 2s (along with info on them and pricing) in the next day or two; expect it to be slated for sometime on the weekend. -Kaikala

Thank you for all the work you’ve put in on these, and for the upcoming opportunities for unlocking. 😀 I am excite.


Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 30 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “This deal is getting worse all the time.”


Date: 08/29/2017 04:32 PM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>I’ll set a date/time for some Tier 2s (along with info on them and pricing) in the next day or two; expect it to be slated for sometime on the weekend. -Kaikala

Kaikala – I’m guessing this fell by the wayside in the quest to squish bugs and life in general. (Thank you!) Do you have any updates on what T2 looks like, what to expect pricing-wise, and if any T2s and/or unlimited will be going out before Duskruin ends? (Or after, really, I’m not picky.)

Inquiring minds, etc. Not a nag, just keenly interested. 😀


Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 30 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “This deal is getting worse all the time.”


Date: 08/30/2017 05:42 AM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>Kaikala – I’m guessing this fell by the wayside in the quest to squish bugs and life in general. (Thank you!) Do you have any updates on what T2 looks like, what to expect pricing-wise, and if any T2s and/or unlimited will be going out before Duskruin ends? (Or after, really, I’m not picky.)

Yes, of course 😉

Tier 2’s ANALYZE (which is a 2-parter) is at the bottom of this post. In short, it lets you toggle on feature fields specific to the item while it’s active (and toggling off just goes back to your regular features) for the LOOK; i.e. a feature “concealer” of sorts that replaces features in your LOOK rather than completely hides them so that you can deck out your race/culture/gender appearance to be totally different than your base features without having to rely on other feature items. Technically any merchant can set those feature fields for you once the item is unlocked (i.e. anyone has permission), but not every GM will be comfortable doing so (or may not necessarily be qualified to) due to how the item is set up. Just bear in mind that the features will need to follow regular feature alteration guidelines — in their current form, these are definitely not meant to take the place of glamour tatts with all of the magical blue fire and demon wings and such 😉

We’ll do 4 total Tier 2s this coming Saturday, all 4 with unlimited charges. 2 will be placed out in cert-equivalent form as first-come first-serve; the other 2 will be by raffle. That’s for Prime. Plat will get 2 total, 1 of each method (and the price will get adjusted down slightly, in case ya’ll Platters are looking into these at all). When I have the raffle set up, I’ll post exact times for everything — but I’m a PST night owl, so definitely do not expect these to go out early in the morning.

They’ll be set at 35k BS (and the raffle will have, of course, a buy-in cost). Will include modifying the race/culture/gender option to your choice of appropriate setting(s) and getting the various feature fields customized — i.e. making sure it’s fully set up out of the gate for what you’ve got in mind.

Also, THANK YOU to the people who submitted bugs and/or were my guinea pigs for some of the more bizarre issues. As of Tuesday, everything bug-wise I’ve received so far should be squashed, but if you submitted something and it is still not showing properly for you, definitely feel welcome to get in touch so that we can hunt down what’s up with it.

~Kaikala

The analyze is taken from the blue sapphire talisman in the shop — this one is set to unlimited charges, Tier 2, but no features set in it yet — should still give you the general idea.

G>analyze my talis
You analyze your blue sapphire talisman and sense that the creator has provided the following information:


DISGUISE ELIXIR ITEM – ANALYZE INFO


This is a Disguise Elixir item. Depending on its setup, it will change the appearance of the race, culture, and/or gender of a character. This is a temporary effect — not a permanent change.

This item provides an aesthetic disguise without any mechanical benefits. It is Tier 2 (of 2 currently). It also allows for illusory features as part of the disguise. Note that these are only illusory via LOOK — your base features will remain the same and will still be utilized by most verbs. The illusory ones must follow regular feature alteration guidelines. Any merchant may alter these, but they MUST be appropriate for the race/culture/gender that the item is set to.

To see what, if any, illusory features are set up, ANALYZE the item again within 15 seconds.

The talisman has unlimited charges and will never run out. Each charge on this talisman nets the character roughly 8 hours and 0 minutes of disguise time until the disguise is eliminated (either through naturally running its course, removing the item prematurely via PULL). There is a very rare chance during each charge cycle that the disguise will prematurely end on its own well before the full time has elapsed. Also note that death automatically ousts the disguise from a character.

The talisman is set up to place the following aesthetic attributes on a character. Altering these settings may only be done on rare occasions by qualified persons; it is not a general merchant service.
Race: Dwarf
Culture: Reznek Clan
Gender: Female

Currently you are able to try to PUSH (to activate), PULL (to deactivate), NUDGE (toggles tattoo visibility), TICKLE (toggles custom features visibility), GAZE, LICK, and RUB (toggles item’s visibility while active) the talisman.

Aesthetic alterations to the item itself are acceptable — they just must make sense for where the item is worn. Note that needles come out of the underside of the item, so nothing in the alteration should prevent that from logically occurring.


You get no sense of whether or not the talisman may be further lightened.
G>analyze my talis
You analyze your blue sapphire talisman and sense that the creator has provided the following information:


DISGUISE ELIXIR ITEM – ILLUSORY FEATURES


AGE DESCRIPTOR:
HAIR COLOR:
HAIR STYLE:
HAIR TEXTURE:
HAIR QUIRK:
EYE COLOR:
EYE CHARACTERISTIC:
COMPLEXION:
NOSE:
FACE:
HEIGHT:
BODY:
DMARK:
WINGS:
WINGQUIRK:
UNIQUE:

The above features WILL NOT show up in the LOOK. To toggle, use TICKLE on your talisman. Features marked with “none” will be blank — this is only possible for features that are not required by the feature system.

Tattoos on your person WILL show up in the LOOK. To toggle, use NUDGE on your talisman.

ANALYZE again for main info.



From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!


Date: 08/30/2017 10:32 AM CDT
From: FOURLETTERNERD
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Will all T2s have unlimited charges?

Or is the unlimited charge a Duskruin thing only?

I ask because I’d kill to have an unlimited charge one in Plat, but I just spent all of my bloodscrip last night not aware that these would come to fruition like this.

Is there also a way to upgrade OTS ones to Tier 2, unlimited at some point?

~Player of Kuvras, et al


Date: 08/30/2017 11:04 AM CDT
From: VANKRASN39
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]

>Will all T2s have unlimited charges?
>Or is the unlimited charge a Duskruin thing only?

unlocking status and permanence status were different and you can have one without the other

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Paid%20Events:%20Adventures,%20Quests,%20and%20SimuCoins/Duskruin%20Arena/view/7420


Date: 08/30/2017 11:46 AM CDT
From: CHULAK
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Can the race be something other than the normal PC races? Such as Storm Titan, for an example.

Speaking in Faendryl, Jahosk says, “You will now be known as Blade Durakar, the Palestra.”


Date: 08/30/2017 12:43 PM CDT
From: FOURLETTERNERD
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Thanks V, now to determine if it was said where these could be turned into unlimited use aside from the shelf ones she’s putting out

~Player of Kuvras, et al


Date: 08/30/2017 02:22 PM CDT
From: MOURNE
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
Thank you for the update! /schemes


Cendadric says, “Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I’ll give you 30 silver coins for it.”
You think to yourself, “This deal is getting worse all the time.”


Date: 09/01/2017 09:32 PM CDT
From: GS4-KAIKALA
Subj: Re: The Messy Alchemist [Duskruin]
>>Will all T2s have unlimited charges?
No. Unlimited charges is completely separated from tiering.

>>Or is the unlimited charge a Duskruin thing only?
The unlimited charge is currently just the ones going out for raffle/FCFS with the Tier 2 unlock. There will not be any other unlimited offerings (nor unlockings to Tier 2) during this run. For the time-being, unlocks/unlimited are definitely a Duskruin-only thing. Recharging the OTS back up to 10 charges, however, can be done outside of Duskruin.

>>Is there also a way to upgrade OTS ones to Tier 2, unlimited at some point?
Sure, in theory — but even then, it won’t be a common offering. I truly have no idea how much actual (vs. perceived) interest there is in these — how this set of raffles/FCFS goes will help give me a better feel for how many will go out the next time they’re offered.

>>Can the race be something other than the normal PC races? Such as Storm Titan, for an example.
Not with this current set that’s going out, no. The development for this script is currently focused on playable races. That doesn’t preclude future offerings, but that’s not what their focus is at this time.

~Kaikala


From nearby, you hear Ordim yell, “Dont eat meeeeee!”

The shaggy mutt sniffs at a vine-painted mistwood keg, then grabs it in its teeth and greedily wolfs it down before anyone can grab it!

 

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