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Mayoral Debate 5118 With Judge Renpaw

On Saturday, March 17th, Judge Renpaw will moderate a Mayoral Debate that starts at #KST (11pm-ish?) at Moot Hall. Watch for other opportunities to grill-er, get to know your candidates, too.

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Category: Towns
Topic: Wehnimer’s Landing

Date: 03/05/2018 12:08 PM CST
From: GS4-KENSTROM
Subj: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
Judge Renpaw will be holding a Mayoral Debate, Saturday, March 17th at the usual late evening time I’m fond of. The Judge will have a few questions, and then open it up to the players to sign up to ask questions. I am only doing 1 night of debates.

In other news, some player-groups have also begun to schedule mayoral debates and I highly, highly encourage everyone to attend those as well!

-GM Kenstrom-
Waylayer of Wehnimer’s Landing
Human Guru

https://gswiki.play.net/Rise_of_Rone

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Date: 03/06/2018 04:12 AM CST
From: THYSON
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
So, I take this to mean there will be no hearing or anything formal regarding the claims of treason against Leafi?


Date: 03/06/2018 11:15 PM CST
From: ESTONE
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
Of course not, did you expect there to be? We have Captains of the Militia colluding with a mass murderer that is attempting to clear his names of stuff he supposedly didn’t do, even though he has something like 50+ murder charges hanging on him.

On top of this, there are several eye witnesses fingering the Mayor for kidnapping, murder, and cannibalism and nothing has been done to Cruxophim either. Everything they did or supposedly did is going to be glossed over to maintain the status quo they have established.


Date: 03/06/2018 11:40 PM CST
From: N2PLAY
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
>>Of course not, did you expect there to be? We have Captains of the Militia colluding with a mass murderer that is attempting to clear his names of stuff he supposedly didn’t do, even though he has something like 50+ murder >>charges hanging on him.

>>On top of this, there are several eye witnesses fingering the Mayor for kidnapping, murder, and cannibalism and nothing has been done to Cruxophim either. Everything they did or supposedly did is going to be glossed over to >>maintain the status quo they have established.

Well, since I don’t know whose player this is and it’s not IC, all I can say is if anyone ever wants to question the militia’s actions, just talk to Shinann IC. She has never colluded with the mayor nor has Stormyrain. I can only assume this is someone that doesn’t talk to us. The very idea of Shinann not keeping the laws is comical. Sometimes the best action is no action. But, not going to spill details here.

B aka Shinann


Date: 03/07/2018 12:04 AM CST
From: N2PLAY
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17

Or with this “Rone”. I just realized that’s who you meant, most likely. Shinann hasn’t talked to him face to face. He did whisper to her the other night where to find the “evidence”.

Sorry if I read that wrong the first time.


Date: 03/07/2018 12:16 AM CST
From: FLAYED-ANGEL
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
>>On top of this, there are several eye witnesses fingering the Mayor for kidnapping, murder, and cannibalism and nothing has been done to Cruxophim either.

Hey, no fingering the Mayor!!


— Wheels & Skulls Department

You see Blood Mayor Cruxophim the Blood Reaver.
“Blood for the Blood Mayor! Skulls for the Skull Office!”

[ Storyline: https://goo.gl/HNbwpC ]
[ Order of the Shadow: https://goo.gl/88Ojff ]


Date: 03/07/2018 12:38 AM CST
From: ESTONE
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
<Or with this “Rone”. I just realized that’s who you meant, most likely. Shinann hasn’t talked to him face to face. He did whisper to her the other night where to find the “evidence”.

Yeah, it was about Rone, and yeah it’s OOC. It was reported that both Militia Captains (Shinann and Stormyrain) met with Rone one night for him to feed them evidence that he didn’t do certain things, but lets forget about the 50+ murders he did commit and take him at face value. 😛

Seriously though, it is a bit silly that nothing has happened to either Leafiara or Cruxophim yet, which is why I suspect nothing will happen.


Date: 03/07/2018 12:43 AM CST
From: KHARIZ555
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
What exactly has Leafiara done? This must be Stonmel’s player.


Date: 03/07/2018 02:25 AM CST
From: LEAFIARA
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
Regardless of who’s posting, I do want to make sure everyone knows that from the beginning Stonmel’s player checked in with me in PMs about whether I’d have any problem with it if he kept pressing the argument, and I said… not at all, go for it!

Actually, no matter what the IC jabs might look like, for me this might be the most fun I’ve had with KST. I’ve loved exploring a very sarcastic Leafi, even if she’s only that way to one person. It’s great fun to have a rival–and we’ve exchanged a lot of PMs and whispers and traded OOC jokes about the whole situation.

So… hope I can at least clear that up in case anyone out there was wondering. There’s no OOC gripe that I know of, just players having fun even though (or because) our characters are at odds. 😀


Date: 03/07/2018 08:49 AM CST
From: KHARIZ555
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
I was just jumping to conclusions based on the fact that I’m not aware of anyone who thinks Leafiara has done anything “wrong” other than him. Heck, Madmountan wants Rone dead as much as the next guy, but he doesn’t blame Leafi for acting consistent with knowing who he understands her to be. But, yeah, it is certainly acceptable roleplay to hold her actions against her in that confrontation. I was just trying to decide if someone could be referencing something other than that.


Date: 03/07/2018 02:31 PM CST
From: THYSON
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
Yes, this is Stonmel’s player.

And yes, it has been fun going at it with Leafi, someone I did not think he would take issue with when I was first developing him character. I know he may sound like the squeeky wheel to some, constantly being gruff with her and others about her, and bringing up his concerns. I’ve also had some really positive OOC talks with some folks on the subject, and it’s been a lot of fun for those involved. As Leafi said, this is an IC dispute, outside that, me and her, as well as me and others I’ve taken issue with, have no beef.

I started this guy up after Maylan made her post, and talked with her about landing stuff, and the idea of playing a character whose views are different from the majority, seemed like a fun concept. Stonmel’s point of view on many things is that of speaking of the “neglected lower class” of the landing. Folks who politically generally don’t have much of a voice in things, and he views most folks in power as “useless fops” more concerned with their power than those people. While he has no power, he sees himself as someone who decided to get more involved in things and voice that concern. He has quite an interesting take on the Rooks and so forth, that has lead to him considering Rone akin to the devil himself, hence his strong reaction to Leafi’s actions that night in the tree hollow. While we as players understand that RP happenings are more fun when more folks can join in, like the questioning in the trophy room, he does not act on those OOC feelings, and that is why he was antagonistic towards the group questioning and not splitting the captives up and talking to them separately. There is no way anyone with the slightest knowledge regarding interviewing witnesses would have considered how it was done as a good idea for the purpose of getting a statement. That said, it was the more inclusive and fun option for many players, me included since he would not have been a party to those interviews, but that does not mean that he will accept that answer IC.

I hope this insight has cleared some things up for some folks. The reason I asked my initial question was because I was curious if anything was going to happen or not, not trying to needle anyone. This issue had been discussed somewhat behind private OOC chats, and some details were shared with me that had me thinking something might be brought up from the charges he made. If so, great, if not, that’s fine.


Date: 03/07/2018 04:46 PM CST
From: UBERWENCH
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
Chiming in here to say I’ve also talked with Stonmel’s player a bit about his antagonism toward both mayoral candidates, and it’s definitely a pure IC thing. I appreciate players who can roleplay antipathy while making it clear that it is, in fact, roleplay. He’s also playing with the spaces between being a good character and a nice character, which is something very much after my own heart.

I’m glad to read the OOC perspective and to have Stonmel’s IC perspective. And I can’t wait for the debate questions he’s likely to have for us. 🙂

— Lauren, Lylia’s player


Date: 03/07/2018 04:46 PM CST
From: JARHEAD
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
<Hey, no fingering the Mayor!!

Now that’s just oh so wrong.

General Radeek Andoran
Drakes Vanguard
Defender of Wehnimer’s Landing
Black Raider of the Mir’Sheq

Only the dead have seen the end of war – Plato

http://radeekandoran.blogspot.ca/

http://thetehirchronicles.blogspot.ca/


Date: 03/07/2018 05:17 PM CST
From: INIQUITY
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
OOCly speaking? I would not expect much involving NPC intervention to happen with people running for Mayor (or a certain evil campaign manager), because it creates a potential for skewing what happens from GM intervention. There have already been a few times where I’ve said something to the effect of: “It is consistent with the IC logic of what would happen, but we cannot do it / expect that to actually happen because XYZ.” In IC terms I find this all amusing because Lylia is hardly an actual victim.

This would have been especially tricky if Xorus had been running for mayor instead of Lylia in this context of a political terrorism/vigilante storyline, because his platform would have been one of embracing absolute and utter darkness far beyond the perceived sins of Cruxophim, and he would have dressed up as Rone for all of it. I might have run him as a “third party” bomb thrower candidate if we had known there would only be the two “real” candidates. (And would have been horrified if he actually won.)

– Xorus’ player


(Of course, after the election, the angry crowds can storm town square with pitchforks and torches shouting: “Hang the Leaf from the Tree!”)


Date: 03/07/2018 06:54 PM CST
From: LEAFIARA
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
>OOCly speaking? I would not expect much involving NPC intervention to happen with people running for Mayor (or a certain evil campaign manager), because it creates a potential for skewing what happens from GM intervention.

Right–I figured that if anything put a halt to an the investigation, it was Kenstrom getting sick and how that delayed the timing into the campaign season when it isn’t viable for OOC reasons. In February I definitely wasn’t opposed to an investigation, though, and actually wanted to go forward with it because it’s so unlike what we normally do. I even had slogans ready for a few possible outcomes!

Oh well, always future events to get into trouble with. 😉


https://gswiki.play.net/Leafiara


Date: 03/07/2018 08:33 PM CST
From: N2PLAY
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
I love the things that are happening IC and the discussions OOC. I think Shinann whispered to Stonmel when this first started that he could talk to her anytime and she tried to get across (maybe didn’t do a good job) that she considered Rone a criminal and should be brought to justice. She’s never been talked to by him, so she has to assume by his comments IC that he’s lumping her into a group she really isn’t in. He and Shinann did verify that the other night through him needing healing.

Again, I mostly commented because I want people to know they can come ask Shinann anything they want. I did make a mistake, thinking at first it was about someone saying our angelic mayor is a mass murderer <coughs>.

If I ever have any problems with someone for OOC reasons, they will get a whisper from me. So far, so good. Shinann is open to anyone talking to her. She does bark a bit, but she loves the Landing and will uphold the laws and defend it with her life, but she will try to have justice served within the confines of the law. She’s never said, “Oh, he’s killing bad guys, that’s ok.” like a few did at the very first. None of it was/is acceptable to her as no citizen taking the law into their own hands is acceptable to her. This is why she’s requested the dead part be taken off the bounty. So, talk to her about Rone, Leafiara, Crux or whoever. Just know if we are talking aloud in TSC, her responses might be different than if you request just to speak with her privately.

Gosh, that’s probably the most insight I’ve given on her publically.

B aka Shinann

(hope that made sense)


Date: 03/07/2018 10:07 PM CST
From: THYSON
Subj: Re: Mayoral Debate – Sat, 3/17
He was fine with Shinann, until the night of the fire. He lumped her and Stormy’s actions together, and when stormy was just having a chat with Rone that same night, him made a flip comment towards her for it, and since she wasn’t the one who had the chat, stormy was, she didn’t know what he was talking about. It’s a misunderstanding he didn’t bother to clear up, since he just assumed that those in the militia are useless and don’t care about the problem. The thing with the healing a few nights later, he decided he didn’t want to really hash it out with her, and rather than antagonize her with a flip comment, he decided to just leave things as they are.

I hope that clears up where that was coming from, as I can def understand the confusion over the change from him towards her. The way the questioning was handled furthered the issue as well, since he thinks it was handled poorly by those in power. Pretty much anyone in power has a really tough hill to climb to earn any respect from him, and if he doesn’t have a good opinion of them formed already (From a lot of positive experiences), it’s really easy for them to lose ground with him.

Incidentally, every time Leafi or someone needles him about how he should work for a position to fix something, he’s convinced that someone like him would never have any kind of voice in changes, and doesn’t want to work for someone he doesn’t believe is competent already.

 

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